Originally by: Cadeus

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I personally miss the days of MOO, at least it gave the devs something to do and play the game to stop them :)


But then again to me it seemed MOO at launch of EvE almost brought down the game by killing everyone in sight, and im sure discouraging people from playing anymore.

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Originally by: GPerson

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Originally by: The Blinded

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Edited by: The Blinded on 24/06/2007 01:50:48
This game is never going to make much more of itself for two simple reasons that I have stated else where and will state here again:

Originally by: The Blinded

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the players of this game dont want more ppl playing it and the company couldnt give a **** wether or not you stay.

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Noobs come into the game and if the elitist forum farriors run them away, CCP's cavalier attiude of "if you dont like the way we run things, heres the door." will.
Its kinda funny when both the ingrained players of the game AND the arrogant company BOTH tell New players "if you dont like it go play WoW".

THIS is going to kill this game.

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Nope. Quite the opposite in my mind. Our attitude keeps people who simply don't have the mentality required for this game out. They don't wind up playing a game they don't like, and we don't have to deal with them whining about core features of the game.

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Originally by: Mr Smartypants

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Originally by: Lady Trade

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- this sucks because i'll take 2 years to be able to fly ship X or build Y and i'll never be able to catch up

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Its true though isnt it? If you werent part Eve from day one there will always be someone who is higher in the foodchain and theres nothing, absolutely zilch you can do which will make you suddenly on a balanced ground.

Originally by: Lady Trade

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- this is a game for saddistic lunatics that like damaging others

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Of course it seems like that when you discover how the Skill system of Eve works and how PvP is based on the use of those skills, there isnt anything you can do after picking up the game so far after launch to not become a default victim from the saddistic lunatics so why not tell it how it is?

Originally by: Lady Trade

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- there is little to no guidance for new players, you have to make your own life and don't get it served to you on a gold platter.

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Thats was what I found fun about Eve until I discovered the above two issues, long story short I knew id always be the noob in the game because I didnt start skilling on its launch date. Going nowhere, slowly seems like an adiquate phrase to use.

Originally by: Lady Trade

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- it's to complicated to be fun and requires to much micro management

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while i personally disagree with all the above points (to some extent at least) they are all more or less valid arguments to stop playing. (but people that have these problems are way better of with hello kitty online or WoW)

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And some people are better off in a game that by default makes players more "skilled" because they had an account running for a longer duration than the....noob ever did.

Seriously are you telling me and other newcomers that we should make 'lemonade' for the rest of our natural lives in Eve by default design and 'enjoy' that?

The real reason why Eve isnt as popular as your strawman examples (Hello Kitty/WoW) is because as soon a new subscription on those games is made, that account is not indefinatly stuck in Newb land.

Originally by: Lady Trade

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on the other hand not ONE of the new players that quit again was whining about cheating devs so frankly i don't agree with your assumption that "eve is doomed".

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I would say the above issue is the final nail in the coffin, I didnt hear about the scandel until I browsed here for a while. Thankfully when my 14 day trial is over ill thin your subscription base by 1 and also bring your PvP standards up by 1. (Did you see what I did there?)

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Originally by: fightnkill

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Edited by: fightnkill on 25/06/2007 07:17:00
One of my worries when playing Eve is that the creators; Some members of CCP are
still Biased towards one group of Players (BOB).

Yeah, I know that there are few unbiased Devs that''s trying their best and
honestly not trying to smear their Company's reputation. Cheers to them

Even thou CCP is trying to assure us that there arn't any biased mods in their
company, It is impossible for them to determine what goes in the minds of their
employees. So there is a high probability that there are some biased mods still.

The events following the death of "Darwin's Contraption" may be an evidence
since whenever BoB kills a Titan, Many members of CCP tries to glorify BoB's
achievement. However on the other hand, when the enemies of BoB makes any sort of major achievement, they don't do anything.

On the otherhand, Some of the update from Tuesday indicates that there are Fair
mods in the play as well. For example, the Nerfing of DD. They make Eve a better
place for everyone, while Biased mods ruin the game for huge portion of Eve
while favoring the tiny portion.


So my point is, even thou there are some bad fruits in CCP, there are good fruits as well. We shouldn't really generalize Entire CCP (INCLUDING THE HONEST DEVS) from the actions of few Biased devs. We should SUPPORT the unbiased devs, and fight against corruption!

DOWN WITH CORRUPT DEVS!


Edit: The Good Part of CCP added the news of the death of BoB's titan

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